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Logos and rhetoric: Or on the limits of Plato's philosophical rhetoric

dc.creatorDeretić, Irina
dc.date.accessioned2021-10-12T10:42:38Z
dc.date.available2021-10-12T10:42:38Z
dc.date.issued2007
dc.identifier.issn1820-0958
dc.identifier.urihttp://reff.f.bg.ac.rs/handle/123456789/637
dc.description.abstractU ovom radu autor raspravlja o dometu i granicama kako Platonove kritike retorike u Gorgiji, tako i njegovog projekta nove filozofske retorike u Fedru. U ova dva dijaloga Platon nije promenio svoj odnos prema retorici kako bi se to na prvi pogled moglo učiniti. Naime, i u jednom i u drugom spisu Platon kritikuje retoričku praksu svoga vremena. Novina Fedra sastoji se u uvođenju zamisli jedne nove retorike koja mora da zadovolji tri uslova. Prvi zahtev se tiče kompozicije beseda koja bi trebalo da bude sastavljena tako da svi njeni delovi budu neraskidivo povezani. Drugo, retorički logos treba da počiva na filozofiji, na dijalektičkim pravilima spajanja i razdvajanja pojmova, da sledi nužnu logiku eidetske hijerarhije. I treće, filozofski retor mora "voditi duše" slušaoca i to tako što bi utiče na formiranje njihove duše sledeći filozofski utemeljen vaspitni ili zakonodavni ideal. Platonov nedovršen projekat nove filozofske retorike, međutim, nikada nije zaživeo, niti je ikada u daljoj istoriji retorike sa toliko ambicija postavljen.sr
dc.description.abstractThe author discusses the scope and limits of both Plato's criticism of rhetoric in the Gorgias and of his project of new philosophical rhetoric in the Phaedrus. In these two dialogues Plato does not change his attitude towards rhetoric as it may appear at first glance. In both of them he radically criticizes the rhetorical practices of his time. The novelty of the Pheadrus is the introduction of a new rhetoric, based on philosophy, which needs fulfill three conditions. Firstly, the rhetorical logoi should be composed in such manner that they represent inseparable parts of the organic whole of an oration. Secondly, rhetorical speeches should be based on the strict dialectical rules of collection and division. Finally, philosopher rhetorician must 'guide the souls' of his listeners in such a way that he radically influences the forming of their souls by following the philosophically founded educational or legal ideal. Plato's unfinished project was never fully accomplished nor was it ever again set up with such great ambition.en
dc.publisherUniverzitet u Novom Sadu - Filozofski fakultet - Odsek za filozofiju, Novi Sad
dc.rightsopenAccess
dc.sourceArhe
dc.subjectretorikasr
dc.subjectPlatonsr
dc.subjectlogossr
dc.subjectdušasr
dc.subjectdijalektikasr
dc.subjectsoulen
dc.subjectrhetoricen
dc.subjectPlatoen
dc.subjectlogosen
dc.subjectdialecticen
dc.titleLogos i retorika - ili o projektu nove filozofske retorikesr
dc.titleLogos and rhetoric: Or on the limits of Plato's philosophical rhetoricen
dc.typearticle
dc.rights.licenseARR
dc.citation.epage191
dc.citation.issue8
dc.citation.other4(8): 177-191
dc.citation.spage177
dc.citation.volume4
dc.identifier.fulltexthttp://reff.f.bg.ac.rs/bitstream/id/2165/634.pdf
dc.identifier.rcubhttps://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_reff_637
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